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TOPIC: Non-Acidified Sodium Chlorite for Disease Prevention and Healing

Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 15 Jan 2017 19:28 #54476

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they could double-dose each hour by reducing the water some (maybe down to 150ml per drop) and then taking a dose at half hour intervals (I've done this before and it worked great). Additionally a person could even triple dose each hour by taking a drop every 20 minutes.


Yes, that is what I was suggesting. Others may not be as sensitive as you to ingesting MMS. Each person will have to find the proper MMS to water ratio for themselves.

And I understand that you are using this method primarily for maintenance dosing and for on-the-go use. Of course, the method can be used at home as well where there is plenty of water available.

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2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
How to use CDS, CDH in Protocols: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/CDS_CDH_and_Protocols-2.pdf
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Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 15 Jan 2017 19:54 #54481

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Maddy, I brush my teeth with CDS. I use a small amount of water in a shot glass and add three 'droppers' of 3000 ppm CDS. Measured the amounts as 8 ml of water and 2 ml of CDS. That is a ratio of 4:1, four parts water to 1 part CDS. Then I brush four minutes using a Sonicare toothbrush.

My neighbor, who has serious teeth problems with pain, uses a much stronger mix of CDS (3000 ppm) mixed with a little water. Sometimes its so strong CDS will burn the inside of his mouth and the skin will peel away! But, his tooth pain is gone and coffee stains on his front teeth are also removed.

It says 10 drops mms but not how many if cds? Says in mls and thats where i get lost.

I presume you are following Jim's teeth brushing protocol from his book. If you check this conversion chart for non-ingestion use of CDS compared to MMS1 you will see that a 10 drop MMS1 dose is approximately equal to 2 ml of CDS. At one time Jim was going to include my charts in his new book, but at the last minute decided not to. :(

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2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
How to use CDS, CDH in Protocols: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/CDS_CDH_and_Protocols-2.pdf
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Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 15 Jan 2017 22:37 #54484

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Hi thank you for all that info, im starting tomorrow and will be starting with the 2ml mix. Iv got a dentist appointment on 30th of jan, looking forward to needing nothing done! Yay!
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Hi scott
thank you for helping me work out amounts, starting on 2ml tomorrow!
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Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 16 Jan 2017 06:43 #54487

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Scott, I chatted with Ray today and he says you are using ten times (10x) more water than he or Greg use. Ray recommends people start with 1 MMS drop in 1 fl oz (30 ml) of water. He usually ingests 6 drops in 1 fl oz (30 ml) of water. I would suggest to start with 1/4 MMS drop in 4 fl oz (120 ml) of water as per the Starting Procedure.

He is afraid if people try to recover from serious diseases using such low daily dosing, they won't be successful and this method will get a similar reputation as CDS and CDH have of being "weak."

It seems you Scott do need lots of water with MMS doses, but apparently most people can use much less water with their MMS only doses.

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2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
How to use CDS, CDH in Protocols: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/CDS_CDH_and_Protocols-2.pdf

Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 16 Jan 2017 08:32 #54488

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Hi CLO2,

First of all let me just say it again. I am using and suggesting this method as a maintenance protocol. The purpose of doing this maintenance protocol is to support my immune system so that I hopefully never get sick so that I do not have to do the other protocols. The last time I read Jim's maintenance protocol, he was recommending 6 drops activated and taken once a day which has the bad smell and bad taste to go along with it. For me, with the amount of water I'm drinking and the drops that I'm putting in the water, I'm getting 10 to 12 drops a day and they're spread out nice and evenly all day long AND there is absolutely no bad smell or taste. I've been doing it this way for a year now and never get sick and feel healthier than I have in many years. So again, I'm not doing this or suggesting doing this to overcome any kind of a disease. It might work to overcome disease, but that's not it's intended function.

Having said that - having read all the literature that I have read on chlorine dioxide over the last 8 years, and knowing it's amazing ability to kill both bacteria and viruses at extremely low ppm, including the great information I got from the US Patent which shows how just 1/40th of a fully activated drop of MMS given intravenously once (or maybe twice a week - I can't remember now) was able to reduce the HIV indicators in the blood of the patent's test subjects, I believe that we don't need as much MMS/Chlorine Dioxide as what many are suggesting is needed to help the body to heal. More is not always better.

When they use CLO2 to decontaminate extremely contaminated water, they just use 2ppm. It's enough to do the job. 20 or 200 ppm isn't needed. I think the fluids of our body are similar.

As you know, I've done the test that shows that 1 drop in 250ml of water added to 60ml of simulated stomach acid activates and turns the entire solution yellow in just 10 seconds. Based on this I would say that the drop is probably about 90% activated which means the solution should have about 19.35 ppm of CLO2 in it. If the entire 310ml of 19.35 ppm were to be absorbed into the blood of a person, assuming 5 liters of blood, the blood would be at about 1.2 ppm. High enough to decontaminate most water. Of course there are losses but then again, of course I've only talked about 1 single drop. Now multiply the above 10 times for 10 drops a day spread out over an entire day, going into the blood a little bit at a time.

Lastly, everyone can do whatever they want to do. I'm just sharing what I have done and learned for the benefit of everyone here and everyone in the world in the hopes that it might help at least one person sometime in the future.

May we all be well.
Scott

PS. Your 4 to 1 ratio of water to CDS is creating a teeth brushing solution of 750 ppm assuming your CDS is 3000 ppm to begin with. I prefer about 35 ppm and think it's plenty strong enough to kill all the bacteria and viruses in my mouth. At 35 ppm there is no bad taste or smell either. I have used about 150 ppm when I had an infected tooth and it worked well to stop the pain. The higher the ppm the more able it is to penetrate tissue which might be needed to reach an infection in a tooth, but at the same time I want to try to not damage the flesh on the inside of my mouth as far as possible and that's one of the reasons why, for general brushing twice a day, I keep it at around 35 ppm.
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1 drop of MMS (at 24 drops per ml) contains 6.7mg (6700ppm) of CLO2
Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS
Therefore, 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
The main difference is that the drop of MMS is only 7 to 10% activated in the cup before being consumed while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops.

Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 17 Jan 2017 00:16 #54492

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This occurred to me after writing the last post.
We have the saying:

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

If we take that literally it's saying 1/16th of a preventative element is equal to 16 times that same element if we were to actually get sick.

In the case of the Chlorine Dioxide found in 1 drop of Sodium Chlorite, which is 6.7mg, (at 24 drops per ml) we could say the following:

6.7mg of prevention is worth a gram of cure.

If a bacteria or virus entering the body is almost immediately hit with a wave of Chlorine Dioxide from a drop of Sodium Chlorite, how can it multiply and get a foothold in the body? In addition, while it's trying to get a foothold, the body is forming it's own antibodies against it. So as we can see, a synergy is created between Chlorine Dioxide and the bodies own immune system, making it extremely difficult for disease to take hold.

May we all be well.
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1 drop of MMS (at 24 drops per ml) contains 6.7mg (6700ppm) of CLO2
Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS
Therefore, 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
The main difference is that the drop of MMS is only 7 to 10% activated in the cup before being consumed while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops.

Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 18 Jan 2017 07:09 #54506

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"I am using and suggesting this method as a maintenance protocol"

Yes, I understand that and wish the forum thread title had made that more clear. However, I think this thread's viewers and posters are more interested in using the method to restore health and not so much as a preventative or maintenance protocol.

I think there is a difference between prevention and maintenance.

Preventative
"Medicine/Medical. of or noting a drug, vaccine, etc., for preventing disease; prophylactic." In other words, something used to prevent acquiring a disease. I think that would apply to you Scott, instead of 'maintaining'.

Maintenance
To continue in good health after recovering from ill health. In other words, a person will continue using whatever they used to recover their health, but at a much lower dose. If they stop what they were doing to restore their health, the illness will probably return. So they take 'maintenance' doses.

The distinction between these two terms is not addressed in Jim's latest book. There is a difference. However, the 'medicine' for both applications is taking small doses of MMS on a regular basis.

Having said all that, I think we need to come up with a health restoration protocol using this method.

This method is named "Non-Acidifed Sodium Chlorite" by Greg (Gregorio J. Placeres, chemist) whose Facebook page is here (12,954 members) and is in the Spanish language. I don't think that is an accurate term for this method of ingesting SC (MMS) because in a stomach the SC is 'acidified' by stomach acid.

Regarding the large amounts of water you ingest daily, I think that can be determined by body size. I would use at least half as much water as you because my body weight is about half of yours!

The amounts of CDS I and my neighbor use for teeth brushing/gargling have been determined by its effectiveness. If we use any less, our tooth pain will not go away. Each person has to find the optimum amount of MMS1/CDS/CDH needed. I use 1:4 CDS to water and my neighbor uses 1:3.

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2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
How to use CDS, CDH in Protocols: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/CDS_CDH_and_Protocols-2.pdf
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Taking Unactivated MMS Drops for 10 Months in All My Water - 4 Drops per Liter All Day, Every Day 18 Jan 2017 14:05 #54507

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Attention! Please read this first!
This topic is focused on using a small amount of MMS drops for maintenance or prevention of disease. NOT helping to overcome a disease that you already have.

I'll try to remember to put the above on every new post I add to this topic to hopefully stop any confusion that may be out there.

Hi CLO2. My meaning for maintenance is that I have a brand new car that doesn't have any problems and I want to keep it that way so I maintain it by changing the oil regularly, etc. Or of a maintenance department of a factory, whose job it is to keep the factory running smoothly. Not the meaning that you suggested, however your meaning could work too, as you pointed out.

And I agree with what you said, "Having said all that, I think we need to come up with a health restoration protocol using this method."

I've put forth my thoughts on it as far as doing either 2 or 3 doses of 1 drop in an hour and that's all I can recommend because that's all I can stomach of MMS in a short, hour period of time. As you said, Ray and others may be able to do more, but I certainly can't - can you?

There were some who could even do 15 drops twice a day in the days of old but they were pretty rare and I'd say that's one of the reasons why Jim settled for just 3 drops per hour for the basic protocol - 3 drops is pretty doable for most, but even at 3 drops, for some it's too much.

I just finished checking out Gregorio's SCSInfo Facebook page and he is recommending that a 160 pound person take 8 drops four times a day, 2 hours after each of 3 meals and then the last 8 drops just before bed but also with a teaspoon of honey that is mixed with quite a bit of cinnamon. Also, I think the last dose also get's a sugary drink with it too.

I think Gregario's recommendation to take the above doses 2 hours after a meal is helping to keep the nausea down since at that time the stomach should be at least about half full from the meal, based on what I've read on the length of time it takes for food to empty from the stomach. So this keeps the nausea down but at the same time the food is going to absorb some of the CLO2, which we don't want to happen. But we have to eat so there is really no getting around having some losses from food.

Anyway, maybe you can start another topic on taking drops to help the body overcome diseases that it already has, like cancer, etc., and then I'll help with it the best I can, along with others in our community here.

Thanks for your insights CLO2.
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The main difference is that the drop of MMS is only 7 to 10% activated in the cup before being consumed while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops.

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